Greatcook
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Nov 3, 2004 14:42:29 GMT -5
Post by Greatcook on Nov 3, 2004 14:42:29 GMT -5
i think the 3rd of november will be remembered as one of the saddest in the 21 century ...
anyway i don't judge all americans ... mostly the civilized states voted for kerry and the farmers states for bush... usa is a strange country where you have diametrically opposed social classes the elite and the worst idiots ....
the table is now set for World war III
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Nov 3, 2004 15:06:25 GMT -5
Post by [paranoid.jack] on Nov 3, 2004 15:06:25 GMT -5
ya, a great deal of the people I know are quite saddened today....
at least in May I'll be 25 and ineligible for a draft heheheh
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Nov 3, 2004 15:19:46 GMT -5
Post by Fenrir on Nov 3, 2004 15:19:46 GMT -5
disgusted.
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Heidrun
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Nov 3, 2004 16:20:22 GMT -5
Post by Heidrun on Nov 3, 2004 16:20:22 GMT -5
At least the ban on automatic and silenced weapons has been lifted. Load up, folks. Armed insurrection. ^_^
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Nov 3, 2004 22:25:49 GMT -5
Post by Greatcook on Nov 3, 2004 22:25:49 GMT -5
this shit is strange.. i have seen something on TV that said it was possible for american people to buy military guns and Uzi and shit like that in stores.. my god..
i think i will go buy a silenced pistol within the 4 years mandat
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Nov 6, 2004 0:52:25 GMT -5
Post by Fenrir on Nov 6, 2004 0:52:25 GMT -5
chienchilla mort gervais mador ton petit chat aux oeufs mange de la marde esti de perdant
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Nov 6, 2004 1:27:25 GMT -5
Post by SirSigisMund on Nov 6, 2004 1:27:25 GMT -5
Ôô
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Nov 6, 2004 13:04:41 GMT -5
Post by Fenrir on Nov 6, 2004 13:04:41 GMT -5
what the hell. I dont remember that.
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Nov 7, 2004 15:54:09 GMT -5
Post by Greatcook on Nov 7, 2004 15:54:09 GMT -5
LOL nice one Nick
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Nov 7, 2004 17:30:52 GMT -5
Post by dirty~redclown on Nov 7, 2004 17:30:52 GMT -5
awesome point Mr.Cook i never thought of it that way its a good point. RE-COUNT
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Nov 8, 2004 1:50:28 GMT -5
Post by Heidrun on Nov 8, 2004 1:50:28 GMT -5
As I did over on the iNi forums, this sums up my feelings on the election.
"The rhetoric flooding television is unbelievable; it makes us think this election was the beginning of the end of the world. "It's in your hands!" they trumpeted. This neurotic paranoia filtered down through conversation, where any number of people berated me for voting Nader. "You're going to let the evil empire just happen!"
A friend of mine once said he would never give credence to the political opinion of any musician he respected, because, as a musician, he knew that any good musician had to spend so much time on music as to exclude study of politics. I now feel this way about anyone who has a job. They simply do not have time for an informed opinion.
Kerry wouldn't have changed America. Bush won't change America. America's course, on the 500 year scale, is already determined and neither candidate will change it, because what's required to change it is so unpopular among the dutiful heads at jobs that it will never be elected in any form. This is why great leaders lie their way to power in democracies; they recognize that telling the truth is an offense and thus an election loser.
Bush's environmental policy is terrible; so is Kerry's. Both give lip service to the environment, sign some legislation saving another strand of trees for the next 99 years, and continue to allow rampant overpopulation, pollution and overuse of resources including animals. They may care, but we'll never know. The fact is that to state the level truth on this issue will get anyone voted out of office.
One of the major complaints at George W. is that he's a "fascist," and is revoking civil rights across America. I have news for you: Clinton (a Democrat) did more for revoking your civil rights than Bush did, and without Clinton's start, Bush would not have had the foundation upon which to build. Your civil rights went away the day you made government arbitrator of "good" and "bad" opinions. You now cannot have them back, because in order to do so you have to make the unpopular statement that we will tolerate any view, including that of al-Qaeda, neo-Nazis, radical Greens, and others who wish to destroy our way of life.
That way of life is what this election was destined to maintain regardless of who won. We all go to jobs for too long and come home to many tasks. Money is our only goal, and our way of penalizing those who go out of line. We have no connection to nature and think that a few more billion-dollar studies, government programs and television campaigns will actually "change" environmental, social, racial and economic problems.
In other words, we just don't get it.
Most of us still believe that our civilization is the product of all civilizations before it, and through some ultra-simplification of Darwin, therefore "the best." We view life before technology as ignorant, pathetic, disgusting, oppressive. We see technology and morality as the forces lifting us out of a primal scum of human failure toward a distant Utopia. And if we just check the right boxes on the vote cards, we'll get closer!
That is a television-watcher outlook. There on the sofa, it comes down to one single choice. Click the correct button, you're a hero - you get a puppy biscuit. Click the wrong one, and no one says anything but everyone hints that you're a bit Neanderthal. But it all comes down to clicking the right buttons, moving us closer to Utopia.
This election meant nothing because people were being elected to roles in the system. The system itself wasn't up for criticism. The system isn't something simple like "conservativism," but something complex, like the idea that human must rule over nature with technology and thus, lacking any external checks and balances, expand recklessly. And in the process, lose its courage and spirit internally, and begin rewarding mediocrity instead of excellence.
We're breeding ourselves into a race of button-pushing clones. We have depleted our fish supplies, our natural wood, our wild animals, and pour pollution into earth, air and sea at record rates. Our population is now such that in another generation we'll have to cannibalize what's left to survive. And of course, when that becomes obvious, our remaining energy will be devoted to internal warfare.
The election is a fantasy show for button-clickers; the real issue at hand is that your species is failing and it has constructed a political, social, moral and economic system to perform elaborate denial of that fact. You want to make a difference? Clear the system-logic from your head and stop worrying about the puppet show of this election. "
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Nov 8, 2004 11:05:05 GMT -5
Post by [paranoid.tactics] on Nov 8, 2004 11:05:05 GMT -5
Welcome to capitalism.
Pretty much all scholars will tell you that we as humans, have exceeded what is natural, (the need to survive, eat, and reproduce.)
Capitalism, Communism, and others are just a grand scheme to keep the wheels on the bus rolling.
I want to digress a little bit. I would like to see a humane form of slavery reintroduced. Too many people bitch about working long hours and so on and so forth. They are lazy on the job and quite frankly don't get shit done.
Now, if we had slavery, we as a race could excell once again. None of this television shit... No you must go work for some grub and worry about if you did your job right.
Now lets get back to reality. For those weak minded fools here. I don't want to see slavery. I just don't want to hear about people bitching about television and shit when they are sitting on a damned video game form.
God-damn, people its a damn election.
Go back to watching E.R.
ptac
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Nov 8, 2004 11:25:15 GMT -5
Post by Fenrir on Nov 8, 2004 11:25:15 GMT -5
Werent you in roots
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Nov 8, 2004 12:45:45 GMT -5
Post by [paranoid.jack] on Nov 8, 2004 12:45:45 GMT -5
marc, if you wrote that, it was the best written post on this forum since the start. I've been arguing the same thing for months...this election changes nothing. This country is far too stable in it's social and political evolution for one man to change it, or his cabinet. This train is on rails, it makes no difference who is the captain...it goes to the same place.
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Nov 8, 2004 21:00:27 GMT -5
Post by Greatcook on Nov 8, 2004 21:00:27 GMT -5
doggy fizzle is off da hizzle fo shizzle dizzle
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